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'They deserve it': Members of 0-16 Lions on Dan Campbell, long-suffering fans and Super Bowl dreams

  • Eric Woodyard, ESPNJan 26, 2024, 06:00 AM ET

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      Eric Woodyard covers the Detroit Lions for ESPN. He joined ESPN in September 2019 as an NBA reporter dedicated to the Midwest region before switching to his current role in April 2021. The Flint, Mich. native is a graduate of Western Michigan University and has authored/co-authored three books: “Wasted, Ethan’s Talent Search” and “All In: The Kelvin Torbert Story”. He is a proud parent of one son, Ethan. You can follow him on Twitter: @E_Woodyard

DETROIT — There are two numbers Detroiters will never forget: 0 and 16.

They represent the Detroit Lions’ 2008 season — the one in which they became the first team in NFL history to play a 16-game schedule without winning a game (though the 2017 Cleveland Browns eventually joined them).

The team set a record for most losses in a season, while allowing the third-most points, the fourth-most touchdowns and the second-most rushing touchdowns in league history. Those Lions were eliminated from playoff contention in Week 11, which was tied for the earliest a team’s postseason hopes had been dashed since 1990.

Five different quarterbacks threw at least one pass for Detroit — Dan Orlovsky, Jon Kitna, Daunte Culpepper, Drew Stanton and Drew Henson — with one of them making the most emblematic play of that miserable season.

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Things were bleak in Detroit toward the end of the winless 2008 season. AP Photo/Paul Sancya

What do you think of Dan Campbell, and what does it mean that he — a member of the 2008 team — is now leading the turnaround?

Jon Kitna, Lions QB: When you experience something like that, you’ve got one of two things you can do: You can tuck tail and run, or you can just continue to approach life head on, and that’s who Dan is. He has a feeling for the city of Detroit and the organization of Detroit and what it’s been through. It’s one thing to see it from afar, but when you’ve sat in it, went through it, to where we were at halfway through the season in 2007 [at 6-2] and feeling like we had things turning in the right direction then to see it fall apart, I think that certainly has been something that helps him be more of the right guy for that job.

Calvin Johnson, Lions WR: It’s just going full circle from the 0-16 team as a player on that team to being a head coach and leading your team in the whole opposite direction of where we went back then. A big part of that is Dan himself, being a player turned coach and surrounding himself with a bunch of player-coaches on his staff. … You kind of dial in a little more when you have a player-coach, and you see that happening. You saw it when it happened last year and it kind of clicked for them halfway through the season.

Drew Henson, Lions QB: To have someone from that group to be on the other side of the one of the greatest runs in Lions history, sports sometimes have a great way of telling stories and having narratives, and I certainly think that every guy from that 2008 team is front and center, wherever they’re at, cheering for these guys with a big smile on their face … because it’s been a long time coming and they deserve it.

Dan Orlovsky, Lions QB: Dan was lunch pail every day. Just a show up to work, do your absolute very best at work, work as hard as you possibly can every single day, and that stood out. I was somewhat younger, and as a young guy when you watched a pro, he was one of those guys that you watched and said “That’s what it looks like. That’s how a pro goes about it on a day-to-day basis.” He didn’t let circumstances control him or emotions control him, he was just there to work.

Rod Marinelli, Lions head coach: I’ll tell you what, there’s no doubt in my mind that he’s going to succeed or would succeed because the type of player he was, he’s the same type of coach — exactly. Hard-nosed. Everything he had. Every day. He had a bad elbow and I mean; he was all bandaged up every day and the pride he took, winning a one-on-one in either a pass block or a route and the intensity of it. You got everything he had every second. And that team is reflecting Dan’s personality.

Rod Marinelli, coach of the 2008 Lions, says tight end Dan Campbell was a hard-nosed player who gave his all every day. Leon Halip-US PRESSWIRE

Looking back, did you have any idea Campbell would become a coach and be good at it?

Johnson: I don’t even know if Dan knew he would be a coach back then, but he’s a leader of men. He led by example back then. Now, he can lead by example, he can lead with words because he’s been there and done that and he’s had some great examples, whether it’s some players around him or coaches that he’s been around, and you can see that paying off. He’s surrounded himself with good company.

Mike Furrey, Lions WR: When you played with him, he was probably one of the best teammates that you could ask for because he was sincere. He helped out the younger guys and he just had a passion to do whatever he could to help the team win. And he played like that, he acted like that, and it was every day. So, it’s not surprising that that locker room has bought into who he is because he’s very genuine.

Orlovsky: I was never surprised that he got hired or that he climbed so quickly because of his self-accountability and the personal pride that he carried. I wasn’t surprised in that regard. I wasn’t surprised by the press conference [when Campbell famously talked about biting kneecaps]. This is probably not the right thing to say, but I’m just being honest: I guess my surprise with him is how well-coached they seem and how intelligent and detailed they seem.

What’s the biggest difference about the organization from then to now?

Henson: They drafted really well. They know what they want to be. They’ve got almost all former players as coaches and their ability to have guys that have been there and done it and can relate to the players and the players can relate and trust them goes a long way.

Marinelli: I see incredible leadership from the top of the organization, and I see that leadership come down, and I think how they pick players and I know that Dan is involved in that, and they listen to him. That thing starts from the top down, and Dan’s the perfect guy and perfect fit for that organization and they’ve done a terrific job in hiring good coaches and making it a place where guys want to stay.

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Kitna: To me, it seems like there’s vertical alignment. From ownership, straight on down your roster, your coaching staff, the people that work in the building. It just feels like there’s complete alignment there.

Johnson: A lot of it has to do with what [Lions general manager] Brad Holmes and Dan are bringing to the team. We’ve seen Brad build a Super Bowl-caliber team coming from out west, from [the Los Angeles Rams], and we know what Dan does as a player-coach. All we want is a player-coach because he gets us. He understands the struggle. So when you have somebody that understands the struggle, but at the same time, understands where Detroit has been and understands the grit that represents Detroit, that is nothing but his authentic self. He is Detroit.

Furrey: It always felt like everything was against you back then, and now it just feels like, watching the game, it feels like everything is starting to fit the right way and go the Lions’ way. Ever since the hypothetical Bobby Layne Curse, it feels like it’s gone the opposite direction.

What does this season mean for Lions fans?

Kitna: It’s everything. We know what sports does. Sports is a unifying thing. And when cities and communities and organizations get to experience some of the things that Detroit is experiencing now, coming off the heels of what happened right down the road in Ann Arbor [with the Michigan football team winning the national championship], it’s amazing.”

Johnson: This is almost up there with religion. This thing is bringing folks to tears. You’ve got folks crying out here. And I get it. It warmed my heart to see them dudes do it just because, even though we weren’t able to do it, we still bleed blue.

Henson: This is for the people in Michigan, this is for the fans of generations. They’ve been waiting on this and there’s no better sports town in the country, if you can get on the right side of things, and I think everybody’s seeing it. … I don’t think you can help but pull for the Lions because it stands for all the good in sports.

Furrey: Even back in the day in 2008, when we didn’t win any games, [the fans] didn’t quit. That town is legit. That town is full of a fan base that is real and deserving and I just couldn’t be more happy for everybody that’s been waiting for this to happen, and it’s been fun to watch.

Dan Campbell’s coaching success isn’t a huge surprise to his former teammates. Chris Graythen/Getty Images

What do you most like about the 2023 Lions?

Jim Colletto, Lions offensive coordinator: They play so hard. They’ve got a great quarterback. And defensively, they play with great intensity and effort and their offense functions well. They run the ball well and you can see that the attitude of the head coach that’s watching them on the sideline is [injected] into the team.

Furrey: You see a team. You see a bunch of guys that are unselfish. They’re working their rear ends off. They have a high passion for playing the game. They execute at a high level. They make huge plays in big moments, on both sides of the ball, and they play with that grit that I know that came from one person and Danny has instilled that.

Marinelli: They fight. I think they play like Dan played. They are tough. On defense they fly around. They have a good attitude, hustle, well-coached, all of those things. On offense, they run the ball with toughness, and he’s got the QB [

Johnson: What I like most about this squad is that, yeah, you have a couple stars on this team, but I feel like honestly we might have had more stars back on the team when I played, but you have some guys who have been around the league and you have some solid veterans. And what excites me most is that you’re starting to see some of these players that people might not have known about, start to emerge and make plays.

The play of QB Jared Goff earned high praise from the 2008 Lions. Nic Antaya/Getty Images

Is this the greatest Lions team of the Super Bowl era?

Johnson: There were stars on some of the other teams, like Barry [Sanders], and we had stars on our teams with Matthew [Stafford], myself and you can keep going on and on, but as far as just a team, what we’re seeing, the energy that we feel … Hey, I’ll tell you this, the conversations that I be having with all the guys that come back and that I played with, we just be thinking about, “Dog, if we were on this team, you know how good we would be?” Yeah, we had some talent, but it’s like with this coach, with this staff, with that culture.

Kitna: They’ve got a chance to do something that nobody’s ever done. So, yeah.

Furrey: That would be hard to debate trying to put somebody else in that picture with what they’ve put together with that whole offensive line and that defensive line. That front, those linebackers, the duo that they have in the backfield right now with

Calvin Johnson, star of the 2008 Lions, chats up the 2023 receivers group during training camp. AP Photo/Paul Sancya

After having suffered through the 0-16 season, do you have any advice for this team?

Marinelli: Do what you do. Just continue to do what you do and it’s good enough. And listen to your coach. That’s what they’ve created in that city.

Kitna: Listen to your coach, man. Listen to your coach.

Johnson: Live in the moment. Enjoy this moment. Don’t overlook the moment. … I only got to go to the playoffs twice, and you hear about guys talking about how they made it to the Super Bowl as a rookie and then they didn’t touch [it] again for the rest of their career. So just live in the moment and don’t overlook it because this is huge.

Furrey: Enjoy the moment but don’t miss it either. They got there because of their execution, their preparation and the goals that they’ve had. They’ve achieved everything they’ve set out to, and they did it the right way, so I wouldn’t change one bit. They’ve played in big games from Week 1. I would not change anything. It’s another game. It’s another big game. And just continue to do what you’re doing.

Henson: You’re carrying the torch for every squad that came before you. We’re in the history books for that year [2008] and they’ve got an opportunity to change the narrative of the whole franchise and I think they’ve done that to a point. And if they can finish it off, they would be obviously the greatest team in history, but one that’s remembered for generations.

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Could Patriots coach Jerod Mayo revive Mac Jones' career?

  • Mike Reiss, ESPN Staff WriterJan 21, 2024, 06:00 AM ET

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      Mike Reiss is an NFL reporter at ESPN and covers the New England Patriots. Reiss has covered the Patriots since 1997 and joined ESPN in 2009. In 2019, he was named Massachusetts Sportswriter of the Year by the National Sports Media Association. You can follow Reiss on Twitter at @MikeReiss.

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. — Quick-hit thoughts and notes around the New England Patriots and NFL:

1. Mayo and Mac: On Wednesday, after Jerod Mayo was introduced as the 15th head coach in Patriots history, he walked into the weight room and saw a familiar face.

“Mac Jones was in there working out,” Mayo told ESPN. “That attitude, that mentality of changing the page, is something that I hold high.”

The page is turning in New England in dramatic fashion, with Mayo quickly tapped as Bill Belichick’s successor after 24 seasons. That has initially sparked more questions than answers, including this one: Could Jones’ once-promising career be revived, perhaps similar to what unfolded with the Miami Dolphins two years ago with quarterback Tua Tagovailoa when Mike McDaniel was hired to replace Brian Flores?

Jones was one of five active players who attended Mayo’s introduction Wednesday, joining linebackers Ja’Whaun Bentley and Josh Uche, cornerback Jonathan Jones and long-snapper Joe Cardona.

Mac Jones among the players present for Jerod Mayo’s introduction, along with snapper Joe Cardona and pass rusher Josh Uche. pic.twitter.com/h8v8Xhvijf

— Mike Reiss (@MikeReiss) January 17, 2024

Mayo is leaving all possibilities open, saying he is in the evaluation stage at every position, including coaches. Mentioning Jones and Bailey Zappe, who replaced Jones as the starter in mid-December, he said: “Those guys have things that they can do and it’s about improving and developing.”

Jones’ development went sideways after a 2021 rookie season that landed him in the Pro Bowl as an alternate selection (352-of-521 for 3,801 yards, 22 TDs, 13 INTs).

How much of that downfall was a result of his own doing or driven by Belichick’s decision-making with coaching, personnel and system changes over the past two years, might depend on whom you ask.

Belichick was clearly done with Jones based on his bottom-line actions in the Jan. 7 regular-season finale, when he demoted Jones to the emergency/third quarterback role behind Nathan Rourke, who had just joined the team 20 days prior.

Some wondered if it was a way to protect Jones’ health for future trade possibilities, but several players didn’t buy that explanation because it ran counter to what Belichick always told them about how every decision is to help the team win.

Those players hypothesized that Belichick was making a statement that game-day roster spots are earned and Jones’ scout-team work, which at one point included too many interceptions, didn’t meet his standard.

It was an icy ending to the Belichick-Jones pairing, with some, such as former NFL quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick, having previously drawn a parallel to what unfolded with Flores (who came up as an assistant under Belichick) and Tagovailoa in Miami.

Fitzpatrick opined on Amazon Prime’s pregame show leading into the Dec. 7 Patriots-Steelers game that Jones was “definitely broken” as a quarterback from Belichick’s coaching. He compared it to how his former Miami teammate Tagovailoa was “broken by the way [Flores] treated him and coached him” before McDaniel “came in and restored his confidence.”

Whether that same dynamic could unfold in New England — with Mayo and a new offensive coordinator after Bill O’Brien departed for Ohio State — is among the lingering questions in a week of seismic change for the organization.

Mayo, who turns 38 on Feb. 23, highlighted the importance of personal connection to his coaching style.

“You have to develop the person before they’ll go out there and run through a brick wall for you. Players have to know that I care about you as a man, first and foremost,” he said.

“We check in all the time. Mental health is a real thing. If a guy comes in and obviously has something off the field, we try to lay off a little bit. I think having that flexibility, knowing what your group is going through, how they feel that day and really adjusting your coaching style based on that, I want coaches who kind of subscribe to that philosophy.”

2. Draft intel: Patriots owner Robert Kraft noted Wednesday that owning the No. 3 overall draft pick represents the highest selection in his 31-year ownership tenure, which highlights the importance of this year’s draft.

ESPN draft analyst Mel Kiper Jr., as part of the “First Draft” podcast with Field Yates, shared his belief that New England is well-positioned regardless of what happens with the Chicago Bears (No. 1) and Washington Commanders (No. 2), mainly because there isn’t a big drop-off from his second quarterback (North Carolina’s Drake Maye) to his third (LSU’s Jayden Daniels), with USC’s Caleb Williams expected to go No. 1.

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And if the Patriots aren’t thinking quarterback, he has a “nifty nine” group of offensive players at the top of the draft — including Ohio State receiver Marvin Harrison Jr. — who qualify as difference-makers. And that’s the side of the ball the Patriots need the most help.

3. Intrigue with OC: How Mayo fills out his offensive coaching staff remains a big question. O’Brien’s departure was expected and essentially wipes the slate clean, so there is intrigue in what direction Mayo wants to take the offense. Wide receivers coach Troy Brown, whose contract is set to expire and has been tapped to serve as offensive coordinator for the Senior Bowl, could be one of the few holdovers, given his history with the franchise (similar to assistant coach/Patriots Hall of Famer Dante Scarnecchia in the past).

4. Coach interviews: Mayo’s initial assistant coaching interviews have been more on defense and special teams. As of Friday night, sources confirmed he had video-conferenced with Broncos defensive backs coach Christian Parker, Saints linebackers coach Michael Hodges, Panthers outside linebackers coach Tem Lukabu, Falcons special teams coordinator Marquice Williams and former Giants special teams coordinator Thomas McGaughey, and there are plans to interview Rams assistant special teams coach Jeremy Springer and Patriots defensive line coach DeMarcus Covington (likely in person).

Some close to the situation say Covington, who attended Mayo’s introduction as coach Wednesday, is well-positioned to elevate to a defensive coordinator role. The interview with Hodges, who was co-defensive coordinator with Covington at Eastern Illinois in 2016, could be a tipoff that it might be headed in that direction.

5. Patriots-Falcons in 2025: Belichick had his second interview with the Atlanta Falcons Friday. If they hire him as head coach, it sets up a Gillette Stadium homecoming in 2025 as Atlanta is on New England’s home schedule that year. It would be right in the NFL’s wheelhouse to project when Belichick might break Don Shula’s all-time wins record and schedule the game so Belichick would have a chance to do so at Gillette.

6. Belichick sons: Steve Belichick and Brian Belichick, Bill’s sons, have been told they’ve earned the opportunity to remain with the Patriots if they choose to do so. Mayo and Steve have a close friendship, so the projected fit on staff would be as an assistant head coach/senior adviser type. Brian, who came up through scouting and most recently served as safeties coach from 2020 to 2023, was still showing up at Gillette Stadium late this past week.

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Sancho gets 2nd chance as BVB re-sign Man Utd reject on loan

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Jadon Sancho is going back to Germany in a bid to revive his career.

Manchester United finalized a deal on Thursday that allows the English winger to rejoin Borussia Dortmund on loan until the end of the season, the Premier League club announced.

“When I walked into the changing room today, it felt like coming home,” Sancho said, according to Dortmund’s website.

“I know the club inside out, I’ve always been very close to the fans here, and I’ve never lost contact with the people in charge. I can’t wait to see my teammates again, get out on the pitch, play football with a smile on my face, get assists, score goals, and help the club qualify for the Champions League.”

? JADON SANCHO ? pic.twitter.com/zomaniz09q

— Borussia Dortmund (@BVB) January 11, 2024

Sancho’s departure from Old Trafford – less than three years after his arrival for a reported €85-million fee in 2021 – is the conclusion of a months-long public fallout with United head coach Erik ten Hag.

The 23-year-old hadn’t played for the Red Devils since August. He criticizing Ten Hag for dropping him against Arsenal in early September and was forced to train away from the first team after refusing to issue a private and public apology to the Dutch manager.

The six-month loan agreement includes a €3.5-million fee, as well as Dortmund’s commitment to contributing a portion of Sancho’s wages, according to The Athletic’s David Ornstein. Manchester United could also potentially receive performance-related bonuses.

Sancho recently expressed a desire to return to his former club, where he developed into a star during his four-year spell in Germany, after it became clear that he had no immediate future at United.

Sancho scored 12 goals in 82 appearances for the Red Devils. During his first spell in Germany, he had 50 goals and 64 assists in 137 games.

Meanwhile, Dortmund’s poor run of form before the Bundesliga winter break heightened the club’s urgency to improve during the January transfer window. The German side sits in fifth place, 15 points back of leaders Bayer Leverkusen, after failing to win its six games in all competitions in December.

Dortmund will likely assess Sancho’s fitness level to determine when he’ll be available after he was forced to spend four months on the sidelines without playing meaningful football. Their first game back after the winter break is Jan. 13 against Darmstadt.

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Report: Madrid target Mbappe near decision, open to EPL

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The mystery over Kylian Mbappe’s future club could be resolved soon.

The French striker will choose which team he’ll play for in the next few weeks after his Paris Saint-Germain contract expires this summer, Julien Laurens of ESPN reports.

Real Madrid and Liverpool are reportedly considered the favorites to sign the 25-year-old if he opts to leave PSG.

Mbappe is free to negotiate with interested clubs now that he’s in the final six months of his deal after deciding not to trigger the one-year extension in his PSG contract last summer.

Mbappe reportedly waived bonuses last week amounting to around €70 million in what’s been described as a maneuver designed to ease the financial burden for PSG if he leaves the Ligue 1 club for free this summer.

However, amid growing speculation suggesting he’s made up his mind, Mbappe told reporters last week that he hasn’t decided anything yet.

Mbappe’s representatives echoed his sentiment Monday, saying there was still no decision after a new report out of France said he’d agreed to join Real Madrid.

“There’s no agreement on Kylian’s future,” read a statement, according to transfer insider Fabrizio Romano. “There have been no discussions about his future.”

Mbappe’s camp added: “No type of influence could dictate the timing of Kylian’s discussions, reflections, decisions.”

Although Real Madrid are widely considered the front-runners to sign Mbappe, the World Cup winner is understood to be open to playing in the Premier League.

A move to Liverpool is one possibility, as Mbappe is reportedly fond of the Reds and head coach Jurgen Klopp. But his massive contract – worth around €650,000 per week – could ultimately prevent Liverpool from completing the biggest signing in club and Premier League history.

Joining Liverpool could also hinge on Reds legend Mohamed Salah, as the Egyptian striker could possibly leave if he’s courted to join the Saudi Pro League in 2024 like he reportedly was last summer.

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